major_west: (crazy in the rain)
major_west ([personal profile] major_west) wrote2010-01-31 04:19 pm

122 - WHOA THERE finally addressing some flood issues

I've been here for nearly two years now, and while others may have seen results, I have not. It's become clear to me that no matter what course I'd have taken, the end result would have been the same: they live. My men and I die. Perhaps, if I had been a better man-- by whatever metric you wardens measure it by-- I'd have had no second chance at all. My death would have brought peace, a darkness, whatever it is those who do not end up on the Barge receive... and nothing more.

In light of that, I must admit that I've even less reason to repent. I'm quite attached to consciousness, to simply being and feeling alive, even if it's in death here.

Survival is all that matters.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
He forces me in his play and forces me to work. But he does not force me to speak yet.

No, this was my choice.

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I see. Then I'm available to speak.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not quite sure what he wanted me to say to you. I am assuming that he told you of the conversation we had? Or did he keep that from you?

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
He said something about you feeling responsibility for my-- flood self's death, but little more than that.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. I do feel I am responsible for that. I believe he thinks that, by talking with you, that my guilt will simply...go away.

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Neither you nor Judas are responsible for my death. Sexby had intended to kill me regardless.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
It is not Judas I blame. If he had been hurt, it would have been my fault, as well.

Intention is not the same as action. Just because he intended to kill you does not mean that he would have followed through. I sent you there. I knew he would follow.

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I understand the sentiment; it's how I felt each time one of my men didn't return from their patrols. And the fewer their numbers, the greater each loss weighed upon me. It's something that, as soldiers and officers, we must cope with for the rest of our lives.

But in this instance, I wasn't a soldier; I was a volunteer. I didn't have to follow your orders, and I certainly wasn't unaware of the risks I undertook when I agreed to help Judas. I knew about Sexby, and I knew that as long as he had his item, he could find us. It simply didn't matter to me, so long as I could help a defenceless man escape tyranny.

I had no obligation to Judas except as a fellow Inmate. I would have done anything for my fellows, as they were... the closest thing I had to my men.

My priorities led to my death. If you hadn't asked me to help Judas, I'd have found another way to die.

Private- welcome to the Marquis' headache...

[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I do not care about your suicidal or martyrdom tendencies. That was not my responsibility or my business. The fact was...I sent Judas to you because I was already under suspicion.

And your death, inevitable or not, should not have been on my hands.

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
They aren't my tendencies; don't mistake that man for me. I guarantee you, if I felt you were responsible for my death, I'd have told you already.

My death was on Sexby's hands.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Fine. They were his tendencies. And yes, Sexby did deliver the final blow, but...

I do not know why this is even a discussion. I am starting to feel this entire exercise is futile.

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Then don't think of it as an exercise.

Six months ago, when I started the riot, one of my friends was attacked and tortured by the Master because she was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and he took it as a window of opportunity. Several people died. My own Warden was shot. If I blamed myself for everything that happened while others were abusing the situation, I'd never get any sleep.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
So where does the responsibility rest? On the individual person? If they go along with what is said, then it is their fault?

If they are willing to do what is asked, then the blame rests solely on their shoulders, not the one who issued the order...or request?

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I believe it's different based upon the situation. If a man enters into a situation knowing full-well of the risks he's about to undertake and being under no obligation accept, then yes, I believe responsibility lies on his shoulders.

When somebody is dependent upon you, or ignorant, or... your subordinate, it's different. I will always feel responsibility for the deaths of my men, but they were my soldiers. I wasn't yours. The actions of a knowing volunteer and an insane zealot are not on your hands.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. Well, thank you, Major. I think this has been a great help.

Private - I DO NOT TRUST THAT SMILE

[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
You're welcome.

Private - You really...really shouldn't. West just justified EVERYTHING Iago does...

[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I have one final question for you, however.

Do you really believe that, if you leave this Barge, the only option is to die?

Private - West is a horrible jerk with MESSED UP MORALS, so the Marquis picked the wrong dude :c

[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I have no home to return to, so it would seem that the best option for me is to "retire" to a world somewhere and wait to die all over again. At least here, there is the assurance that I'd come back.
Edited 2010-02-01 02:50 (UTC)

Private - Iago's not complaining about it now XD

[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
That does seem quite unappealing.

Especially as I have nowhere to go, either.

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[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you intend to do about that, then? The wardens insist that the best option is to become one of them.

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[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I would rather not answer that. This conversation is already too dangerous.