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I've been here for nearly two years now, and while others may have seen results, I have not. It's become clear to me that no matter what course I'd have taken, the end result would have been the same: they live. My men and I die. Perhaps, if I had been a better man-- by whatever metric you wardens measure it by-- I'd have had no second chance at all. My death would have brought peace, a darkness, whatever it is those who do not end up on the Barge receive... and nothing more.

In light of that, I must admit that I've even less reason to repent. I'm quite attached to consciousness, to simply being and feeling alive, even if it's in death here.

Survival is all that matters.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com
Neither you nor Judas are responsible for my death. Sexby had intended to kill me regardless.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
It is not Judas I blame. If he had been hurt, it would have been my fault, as well.

Intention is not the same as action. Just because he intended to kill you does not mean that he would have followed through. I sent you there. I knew he would follow.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com
I understand the sentiment; it's how I felt each time one of my men didn't return from their patrols. And the fewer their numbers, the greater each loss weighed upon me. It's something that, as soldiers and officers, we must cope with for the rest of our lives.

But in this instance, I wasn't a soldier; I was a volunteer. I didn't have to follow your orders, and I certainly wasn't unaware of the risks I undertook when I agreed to help Judas. I knew about Sexby, and I knew that as long as he had his item, he could find us. It simply didn't matter to me, so long as I could help a defenceless man escape tyranny.

I had no obligation to Judas except as a fellow Inmate. I would have done anything for my fellows, as they were... the closest thing I had to my men.

My priorities led to my death. If you hadn't asked me to help Judas, I'd have found another way to die.

Private- welcome to the Marquis' headache...

Date: 2010-02-01 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
I do not care about your suicidal or martyrdom tendencies. That was not my responsibility or my business. The fact was...I sent Judas to you because I was already under suspicion.

And your death, inevitable or not, should not have been on my hands.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com
They aren't my tendencies; don't mistake that man for me. I guarantee you, if I felt you were responsible for my death, I'd have told you already.

My death was on Sexby's hands.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
Fine. They were his tendencies. And yes, Sexby did deliver the final blow, but...

I do not know why this is even a discussion. I am starting to feel this entire exercise is futile.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com
Then don't think of it as an exercise.

Six months ago, when I started the riot, one of my friends was attacked and tortured by the Master because she was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and he took it as a window of opportunity. Several people died. My own Warden was shot. If I blamed myself for everything that happened while others were abusing the situation, I'd never get any sleep.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
So where does the responsibility rest? On the individual person? If they go along with what is said, then it is their fault?

If they are willing to do what is asked, then the blame rests solely on their shoulders, not the one who issued the order...or request?

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com
I believe it's different based upon the situation. If a man enters into a situation knowing full-well of the risks he's about to undertake and being under no obligation accept, then yes, I believe responsibility lies on his shoulders.

When somebody is dependent upon you, or ignorant, or... your subordinate, it's different. I will always feel responsibility for the deaths of my men, but they were my soldiers. I wasn't yours. The actions of a knowing volunteer and an insane zealot are not on your hands.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
Ah. Well, thank you, Major. I think this has been a great help.
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
I have one final question for you, however.

Do you really believe that, if you leave this Barge, the only option is to die?
From: [identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com
I have no home to return to, so it would seem that the best option for me is to "retire" to a world somewhere and wait to die all over again. At least here, there is the assurance that I'd come back.
Edited Date: 2010-02-01 02:50 am (UTC)

Private - Iago's not complaining about it now XD

Date: 2010-02-01 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
That does seem quite unappealing.

Especially as I have nowhere to go, either.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com
What do you intend to do about that, then? The wardens insist that the best option is to become one of them.

Private

Date: 2010-02-01 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com
I would rather not answer that. This conversation is already too dangerous.

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